He is an amazing teacher who has dedicated his life to working with the kids. He has done such great things with the music program and has inpacted so many lives. Get this talented man back in the classroom where he belongs!!!

While this teacher can be amazing on some days, on others he is the complete opposite

BOE, admin, fellow teachers (and students) have to hold a teacher accountable for bad/bullying behavior; when they are the "complete opposite" of their amazing days.
All the detailed bullying policies seem to target student to student behavior. Why do we hold children to higher standard than their teachers? (Why are students punished for behavior that sometimes a teacher gets away with on a bad day?) I recall a BOE policy that talks about teachers and other adults leading by example.

Bridgewater-Raritan has been very fortunate to have a band director as passionate and dedicated as Mr. Markiewicz. He teaches life lessons and helps children become responsible young adults. He is a true leader. Is he demanding? He certainly is, and thank goodness for that. We need more teachers like him. He teaches that with hard work you can achieve great things. The accomplishments of the program he leads speaks for itself. Numerous honors, state championships, awards, etc. But most important was the impression he left on my son who graduated 6 years ago. Many of us parents (but unfortunately not enough parents) have had that influential adult that made a lasting impression on our lives. For me it was a high school football coach. I am thankful my son could get that same experience and never thought it would come from a music program. Had I known about the BOE meeting, I would have been there to support this great teacher.

I am utterly disgusted by the students and parents defending Larry Markiewicz after his suspension. This should have happened 4 years ago when the BoE began to investigate the years of documented student complaints about him.

Larry Markiewicz is the single reason I chose not to study music in college. He took the enjoyment out of playing my instrument. I was in almost every single one of his ensembles and also chose to play in the community band he conducts. By my senior year, I dreaded going to wind ensemble first period so much that I would hide in the orchestra room until the bell was about to ring.

I once witnessed him yell at a friend and fellow member of the Wind Ensemble until she cried in front of the entire class. I heard him compare students' marching band abilities with sufferers of cerebral palsy. I can't even count the number of heavy objects I've seen him throw. I know multiple students who voluntarily failed his course just so they could leave the ensemble. The number of BR wind ensemble graduates studying music in college is absolutely abysmal for a school of that size.

I will be the first person to admit that Larry can be an effective educator, but NOT ONE OUNCE of the band program's success is worth the price of so many suffering students. The BRHS band program is successful in spite of him, not because of him.

Oh for the love of God. YES, his program works marvels for the 10 kids who feel it worthwhile to color code their practice logs and kiss ass at BOE meetings. But for the other 95% of the members who decide they want a band program and not an all-or-nothing cult, it offers nothing. Are we talking about the same "amazing" Larry Markiewicz here who was brought to court several years back for abusing a student, who breaks music stands when he can't control his rage, who badmouths students behind their backs? Come on now. That's not teaching.

The man is an out of control child who has no place in the classroom.

I'm surprised they found so many students willing to say good things about Markiewicz and not a single one who wanted to talk crap about him. That's kind of like going to the Camden aquarium and saying "Camden seems like such a nice town, I have no idea why everyone says it's not safe", then leaving. You're kind of missing the huge chunk of the band kids who would beg to differ about his "teaching style".....

Mr Markiewicz is the best teacher I've ever had. He is outstanding in every way. His passion and commitment to the program and it's students isn't found in many schools if any. He needs to be back in the classroom teaching. He has made such a positive impact on the lives of many and it's a shame that this has happened. Bring him home where he belongs, back to the band room and back to his students. We miss him a lot.

It completely disgusts me that people can judge a man based only on his past actions without witnessing the good he does today, and how he has turned his life around. Those of you commenting on past experiences have obviously not been around the high school in a while. Mr Markiewicz has completely changed his attitude within the past two years, and after all of that, after truly changing himself for the better of his students, does not deserve this. This issue is happening now, not 4 or 5 years ago. How dare you judge him based on the past. Open your eyes to the present. If I had been at the board meeting I would have made that known. Learn the facts before you open your mouths.

Over 60 high-school students (not even counting alumni and parents) voluntarily spent more than two hours on a school night during the week of HSPA testing for the sole purpose of expressing support for Mr. Markiewicz. Many more wrote letters that were delivered to the Board. The students present included members of the Concert Band, the Symphonic Band, the Wind Ensemble, Marching Band, Jazz Bands, Drumline, even Winter Guard-- from All-Eastern musicians to the greenest freshmen. That in itself is more than enough evidence of how much he is loved: his students will follow him to the moon and back. If you weren't there at the meeting, you wouldn't know the number of students from all degrees of involvement with band who spoke voluntarily, many in tears, about the incredible impact Markiewicz has made on their lives.

Without him, the band program will go downhill.Not just in terms of trophies won or lost, but in the lessons that kids take away from it. Participation, passion for music, mature work ethic, and the powerful sense of family that currently defines the band will all diminish. I believe so many more kids will quit music without him there. He is one of those teachers that inspire, not just teach; it would be an absolute tragedy for BRHS to lose him.

It hurts to say this, but I am relieved that Mr. Markiewicz may officially be relieved form his teaching duties, at least at the high school level. While I admire his passion for music and his drive, I don't believe that it is appropriate for him to be teaching this age group. His standards are so incredibly high that it takes every ounce of physical and emotional power to attain them. I was a first chair player for all of my years in band because I worked my butt off. That came at a horrendous price to my happiness and health. However, Mr. Markiewicz always made it clear to all of us that "sleep is rehearsal for death," and that if we were not slaving away for him, then we were wrong. He always covered his behind by following all of his abusive actions with "I love you guys" and "I'm only getting upset because I care." You know who also makes those same excuses and continually makes the same mistakes? Abusive parents. Mr. Markiewicz may be a brilliant man, but he is 100% not suited to be a high school educator. I don't care how much he has improved temporarily/recently. Years of hidden scandal and student mind manipulation need to be put to an end. I refuse to believe that every student at BRHS now wants him to stay, because I was an avid supporter of the program until I left and realized how horribly I and so many other students had been treated. Let him go to grad school and teach college-level orchestra, but don't keep him at BRHS.

His actions and behaviors described in the testimonials I read should have had him fired yeas ago. If students behaved the way he does at times, they would have been expelled or arrested. And cursing, humiliation and throwing things would get a person fired in the corporate world. Too many people have accepted the bad with the good for too long. Trophies do not justify abuse.

Ask yourselves supporters, how much you are willing to ignore or turn a blind eye to during your teacher's bad moments. Its not OK for him to treat you or watch your friends be treated like crap (as some of you have seem him do on occasion). Do not give him a pass because he "loves you" Its a bit scary, what you are willing to ignore. There has been a culture of secrecy and not speaking out for years. Don't trash someone who is willing to speak truth. I am sure the incidences described were not made up. Nothing is black and white. People are not ALL good. Give him/her credit for being brave enough to speak up. If you like your band leader, credit him for the good stuff but don't deny the bad stuff or trash people who are brave.

As an alumni I was upset that a teacher such as Mr. Markiewicz was being suspended. My freshmen year was his first full year teaching and I can honestly say without him the band program would not be where it is today. If both marching band kids and wind ensemble kids want to continue to have the experiences they are having (BOA championships, ensemble competitions, etc) Markiewicz is the teacher that can facilitate this happening. Who wants to be the last place marching band or ensemble at a competition?! No one! Things cant be so easy that when kids go to college they think are wonderful/number 1 when they hadnt worked at all. Without the help of Mr. Markiewicz I would not have been able to go off to college ( 300+ person band) and actively participate in the marching program and be one of the best marcher and players; I had instructors and peers ask me where I learned. He was a great mentor to all and yes on some days close to competition, things got intense, but I can honestly say without learning in high school that things are stressful/intense and that you can always strive to do better, I would never have been able to succeed in college or in my career. Stop punishing this teacher for teaching kids life lessons. The fact that some have the audacity to ruin someone’s career/ life because their kid felt offended, think about the real world after college, you think the boss isnt going to get intense and have a temper some days? Is little Jane/Johnny gonna cry then too?

I'll admit, I'm not a parent of a band student nor was I a student of his. However, I do have children that attend or have attended BRHS and they have friends in band who've talked about him. And not in a nice way. I think that should be of a concern...how he is perceived. I find that perception has some basis in truth.

Some background... I was in band from 4th -12th grade at my high school...a VERY competitive high school in the midwest, 140+ members strong and who won numerous state competitions. So, I know all about that bandie environment. I know what is required to be a member of a very successful band. The extensive summer practices (in 100+ degree heat), the live and breath of marching band (no time for other activities/job), the fight for first chair, the work that is required, I also know about the band instructor who is behind all that, and how success is pounded into the "bandies" heads.

If numerous people are saying that this guy throws things, compares them to CP individuals, etc...then perhaps he needs to be suspended. Take time off and take some anger management courses.

Is winning all these championships WORTH your child being exposed to this sort of individual?

Simple question, where were all the disinfranchised parents/students at the BOE meeting? Do you hold the same standards towards students that get berated by coaches when they participate in extracurricular athletic activities? Do students/parents know ahead of time what his personality/demands are ahead of time and go in eyes wide open?

Admittedly I do believe there are multiple ways to skin a cat. Having graduated from a military academy where hazing was routine, it was not adopted nor implemented by me. Was I just as (if not more) effective of those that took a different course in dealing with underclassmen? I would like to think so, does it mean other methods were not effective, no.

I'm sorry if someone's feelings are/were hurt, however, how many people here complain about children being mollycoddled by the system/teachers. Do the ends justify the means is a legitimate question; however, I think everyone should take an introspective look prior to casting judgement.

Again where were you during the BOE meeting?

Any comment that I have or will speak, write or post on this issue will have my name on it. It amazes me to see that many of the negative posts appear to have false names or no names listed. Now what kind of a lesson is that to teach our children?....to hide behind an anonymous post....especially when so much is at stake....

I have seen this band director through the years, and there is always the right mix of positive and negative feedback. Those who make the commitment and stick it out feel they can accomplish anything. I occasionally walk my dog nearby when they are practicing and I see how hard they work and I hear occasional yelling and I also hear uplifting praise. These kids are part of something great that they will remember the rest of their lives. This is common great in sports, dance, cheerleading programs, etc.The number of current and former students that have come out in support of this teacher is a testimony to the appreciation for his passion and commitment, as opposed to anonymous online attacks. Forget about awards. Just watch the marching band at halftime of the first football game. Then watch them again after week 4 and week 7. The progression is incredible and makes me as proud today as I was when I had kids in the program. Same is true for the jazz band and wind ensemble. The kids are very talented but need the leadership that teaches them to perform as a tight, unified team. I don’t know what led to this situation. But I do know that over the years there have been overly sensitive parents that have made the types of complaints I am reading here. These kids will be in college soon. Let them grow up. Land the helicopter and get out. Let’s get the best high school music program in the state back up and running again with Mr. Markiewicz at the helm.

There will always be parents who will complain about a coach;s behavior and others who say suck it up, verbal abuse is part of the game. I am aware that some past complaints were decided by admin. to be handled "internally" What does that say about coming forward? We teach our children to stand up for their friends being bullied on the playground but what about in the classroom? Music students spend much of heir time with their band. They have made a huge commitment and they are hoping for a good college recommendation. Over the years, I have heard parents and students say they are afraid of the backlash if they were to come forward. (How about the student who said they would lose their chair if they said their real name. What does that tell you about the culture.)

The sad reality of the situation is that Markiewicz really was preparing these kids for the real world. No one goes easy on you in the real world. You will see a lot of aggression shown towards you in the work place, even going as far as bullying or manipulation. The only difference is that the work force won't care, and Markiewicz actually cares about his students. I know he did because I went back and saw him years after graduating, and I could tell that he was so thrilled to see BR Band alumi, and he was thrilled to hear that we were doing well. He had a very unorthodox way of going about it, but he was teaching life lessons and pushing these students to be better than they ever thought they could be. He challenged his students, and I honestly wish I had more educators that cared about and challenged me like he did. It's not a teaching style that everyone can handle, but not every teacher is going to be able to reach every student. But those that grasped on really soared to new heights.

Every teacher can be amazing some days and not so amazing on others. This is a very competative music program. These students know this when they join. If they can not handle this, and I am not saying this to put down any child, then this program is not for them. It cannot be taylored to meet every individual student's needs. It is not for everyone. Just because your feelings get hurt doesn't mean you can try to ruin a person's reputation and/or career. During footbal and toher sports, if the athlete's aren't producing up to the standards of the coach, what do you see? the coach yealling, screaming, jumping around. right? well, in the band program, if you do not do what you signed up to do, and you don't do what your "coach" tells you to do , then what is supposed to happen? Give you milk and cookies, play duck duck goose? Let's be realistic here. This is high school...not pre school. What is going to happen when this student goes to college? Are his parent's going to come and protest because he didn't get his way? It sounds like Ms. Person and the few that are complaining, did not get what they wanted from Mr. Markiewicz. But was that his fault or their fault. I am not casting blame, I don't know what your exact experiences are. But if you felt that strongly than you would have appeared at that BOE meeting to stand up for yourself. and for this student.

* Ms Percival (not Ms. Person)

Tough love has no place in this day and age, among this generation of precious snowflakes programmed by possibly well-meaning but definitely clueless helicopter parents to believe that life is actually fair. You know, the same parents who actually wipe their kids butts well into adulthood? (Intervening when Junior gets a C in college? Calling a potential employer to ask why Sissy didn't get that job? Yeah, you people) This disease is even worse in affluent districts like B-R.

Why anyone would dedicate their lives to teaching horrible, self-involved, over-entitled children raised by obnoxious, hypersensitive parents, in an ultra-PC environment where the tiniest misstep can destroy your entire career, is beyond me.

To all those who have wondered wny people are using anonymous names and why there were no voices against the general public at the BOE meeting; it is because they fear retribution. I have personally seen students be isolated or shunned by their friends or worse publicly ridiculed if they speak against or quit the band/marching band program. While I considered going to the meeting I decided not to because I was afraid what might happen to me in school.

Thankfully there is no yelling in the military service academies.

Personally, I am disgusted at this whole situation.

That my own fellow classmates went up to talk about this band teacher, while not even understanding the full nature of the situation at hand, is appalling. If you really cared about Mr Markiewicz, you would back down and let him get the punishment he deserves. If not, he will continue doing what he has done and only endanger his career further. And for those who don't even know why he's been suspended -- frankly, you shouldn't have spoken. While I understand many people feel a lot of love for Markiewicz and all that he's done for us, there is a point where you need to back down and let him accept retribution for his misdemeanors/

Like some of the other students here who are using anonymous names, I also chose not to go to the meeting. It's ultimately repulsive that I even felt afraid of going up there to speak my mind, because had I done so, I would have been isolated by all of my friends in the band. The fact that this behavior even occurs in the school, for a band program of all things, is really yet another sign of how Markiewicz has turned the students against one other.

I'm extremely disappointed in how this article covered the topic at hand. It is far too sympathetic towards Marciewicz's cause, even though it does not even remotely understand the situation. It is like defending a murderer when not even knowing he has murdered someone, although obviously not to the same degree.

I am shocked to hear about Mr. Markiewicz’s suspension. I am even more appalled at the negative comments that are posted on here. Mr. Markiewicz is the most influential teacher I have ever come across in my lifetime. I graduated from BRHS in 2007 and was the former drum major of the marching band. Even though I graduated 6 years ago, I still visit him from time to time. I love his enthusiasm and passion towards music, but I love his dedication as an educator even more! Mr. Markiwicz goes above and beyond normal teaching curriculum and expands his teachings to shape responsible young adults. To this day, his words of wisdom are still engraved in my head. This includes, “being early is on time, and being on time means you’re late”. Maybe I am the few individuals who have parents that remind me that “My best could always be better”. Mr. Markiewicz helped me become the best I could be in high school. We need more educators like him who are willing to go the extra mile for his students. We live in Bridgewater because of the exceptional school district. Our school district is outstanding because of the amazing faculty staffs like, Larry Markiewicz, and our kids need those faculty members to help open them up to their full potential. If I knew about this earlier, I would’ve definitely made an appearance at the meeting. I would’ve taken time out from studying and taking care of my twins just to be a testimony to his legacy.

well, these comments hurt. It sounds like most of you are past students. I am a current one. And a symphonic band not first chair member. I love him, he is very nice. Why are you guys being so cruel on here? none of you even know what happened

This seems to be all about protecting kids from the real world and all the "mean" people out there. Well, the real world isnt pretty with peers and managers not always being nice and telling you how great your are and what a wonderful job you are doing. You cant punish someone like Mr. Markiewicz for trying to give kids a life lessons. All these negative comments are outrageous and upsetting. There are some things that i learned such as "on time is late and early is on time" that have helped in all throughout college and my career. Seems like the next generation is going to be wimps who going running home when they get their feelings hurt; this is absolutely appalling.

I think that Mr. Markiewicz is actually an amazing teacher. I am not especially fond of him, but without knowing the details, and taking an objective look at the situation, I can only say that in terms of being a teacher, he might be hard and expect a lot, but he is not especially mean or cruel. He just has high expectations, and these expectations all lie on the premise that his students will work hard. He simply expects that his students will work hard, and believes that a commitment to band is a commitment to the work outside of school it equates to as well, and so if you had a horrible experience with him, it was probably more because of your own lack of desire to work hard than any fault of his own. I doubt Mr. Markiewicz likes me whatsoever, but I have never had him be especially mean to me and I think that unless we know the entire story of the bad experiences, and not a skewed viewpoint, we really can't make any claims about the situation.

Yes, there are mean managers and bosses and people that adults need to handle. There are also muggers and bullies and domestic abusers in the world; should we expose our kids to these people as practice for the real world?

Many of these comments have been along the lines of 'he's only mean to us when we deserve it' and rationalizing Mr. Markiewicz's behavior. If you have to rationalize his behavior, perhaps it's time to take a second look? In addition, if none of these allegations were true, would the student have brought them? Knowing the influence Mr. Markiewicz wields, why would he risk his reputation, his grades, his future, to make false allegations?

Mr. Markiewicz has a very forceful personality and he deals with these children at a very impressionable and vulnerable time in their lives. They have little life experience and no exposure to the real world, and they spend hours and hours and hours with the band. It is their life. And when Mr. Markiewicz screams at them, or cuts them out of the final performance, or throws a music stand at them, they defend him by saying it was their fault and they deserved it. That is a classic hallmark of an abusive relationship.

(To say the band program will go down hill w/o him is disgusting... He's NOT the only band teacher at BRHS)

wow, so many people here that hardly know him and have never talked to him. seems legit

From mycentraljersey.com:

Markiewicz was suspended because “they believe that Mr. Markiewicz held an improper meeting with the band and his students,” attorney Eric Schelsinger said Thursday, although he could not elaborate.

What exactly is an "improper" meeting?

Once again.... teachers are expected to lead by example in a respectful manner.. (Its there in print in BOE policy for all to read.) Supporters seem quick to defend his entire character without knowing the details of some of his his actions. I would hope students also support each other when they see and hear things that don't sit right with them. Seems too easy to call people names, or say its just former students with a grudge who have come forward. In the real world things are complicated and we don't know the whole story. Maybe people do not come forward until they think it is safe to do so. Suspensions happen very infrequently in this district.

Wish posters would stop with the inane 'real world' references, say what you mean.

Jane Doe- I may not live in Bridgewater but I just did a quick search online about the BOE meeting on Tuesday that you said was not publicly announced and found out that it was. ALL PUBLIC meetings for a BOE or a Town Council/Committee need to be publicly annouced before it happens it is state law.
Also, do debunk your comment on how did people know that this subject was on the agenda take a look at it here: http://www.brrsd.k12.nj.us/files/filesystem/agenda%20-%20board%20-%2013-mar-05%20-%20revised%203-5-13.pdf
It was on the agenda in the Personal addendum.

Anyone can see this, concered parents wanting to know what is going on in their kids school district can go on to the school districts website and look at the agenda and what is being done.

I should go back and try to ruin the life of every teacher who ever yelled at me. This is obviously why I have no self-esteem and lead a barely functional adult life.

I am aware that the definition of "Bullying" has been watered down to mean "Any behavior that does not make your precious little snowflakes feel like the most awesome and important human beings in the known universe."

I think that what is missing from this conversation is the selective nature of the band director's rage. If you are a student, or parent of a student, who never incurred his wrath, then you have an entirely different point of view than those who experienced it directly. It's much different being a target, vs witnessing it happen to someone else. To say that he only gets mad at those who deserve it is a blame the victim mentality, and is an easy way to justify inaction and silence.
Several posts have similar variations - his rages are frightening to some, but he doesn’t hurt anyone, or that his anger teaches about the real world, or serves some purpose to further education. This is an interesting teaching technique – and not one most educators would agree with.
Episodes of explosive rage are not acceptable in most work environments. The students are expected to not react to, or take exception to, the drama. We are calling on them to display more maturity than the adult in the situation.
I truly believe that the band director is a talented, capable musician. And I acknowledge his passion for, and dedication to, the band program. However, I find this hard to reconcile with the same man who berates, rages at, threatens and humiliates those same band program participants.

bths06, The closed door meeting took place before the regular board meeting. Nothing was said at the meeting about it! Just want to know how some people are on the inside of the information on a legal issue!

He is an EDUCATOR. a TEACHER. His job is not to "prepare kids for the real world." his job is to teach about music, maybe to inspire a passion for and appreciation of music. It is NOT to expose a student to the future harsh realities of life. He is a music teacher. If you had a kid, would you want to send them to school everyday knowing they would get bullied, belittled, and screamed at? Would you say "well, kiddo, that's what life is. suck it up." Yes, life can suck. But the last place these "lessons" in the cruelty of people should come from is a teacher. That is the last thing a teacher should want to do. There are stricter limits on teachers' behavior than on say, a boss's behavior for good reasons. High Schoolers ARE NOT adults. High expectations should be upheld, yes, but the fact remains they are still impressionable. Teachers are in a unique position because of the influence they hold over students. Why abuse that power?

For those that feel outraged that a teacher showed passion about his job and may have raised his voice on occaission, and who knows, maybe even said some bad words to 16-17 year old kids from NJ, please realize that YOU are the reason that some teachers do not exhibit much enthusiasm in their profession any more. It's just too risky. Better to not stir up any trouble and just coast through your career and retire.

Actually, behavior comes from parents. As parents, we know to lead by examples. If the parent always resorts to complaining to obtain his/her satisfaction, then the child will learn to do the same. I have witnessed many band parents doing so in the past (whine, complain, "kiss-ass"). I agree that teachers can be passionate without doing the things he did; however, I do not think we are trying to "throw the kid under the bus". Why are we giving the student the better of the doubt? Is it acceptable to verbally abuse and disrespect your teacher? What if there was verbal abuse from the student? Parents should take at look at their parenting methods before placing the blame solely on the educator. Teenagers are capable of being two-faced to benefit themselves. I'm sure most parents know that their child is not a saint....I hope. We all know teenagers are notorious for being obnoxious.

I have a child in the band. I have a child in sports. So, why can a coach get away with bullying behavior that was on public display and a teacher can't? Shouldn't both be suspended and investigated? What's the difference?

Only the students in his classes and some of the teachers who work with him know how he behaves. They have seen the good and not so good. So stop speculating . Ask your kids if he has thrown things,cursed and/or humiliated students to tears etc...(People who exhibit these behaviors in the corporate world are fired.) Students who behave this way get detentions and suspensions. BUT is okay for a teacher who is a passionate about their art form? Students in band are generally committed and thus responsible and somewhat respectful. Its hard to imagine there is a lot of whining and complaining going on. Hard to imagine the band director would tolerate that. Students don't need to be prepared for the real world by being verbally abused or humiliated by their teacher.

Bridgewater-Raritan Regional Board of Education Policies and Rules (available on BOE website)
Policy 4037 p. 1 " Staff members will not use insults or sarcasm against students as a method of forcing compliance with requirements or expectations."
Policy 5310 - Prohibiting Harassment, Intimidation and Bullying - section C- staff behavior .

Some have stated that no one but those that were there really know what happened. This does not seem to stop people from assuming that Mr. Markiewicz is guilty and expressing this uninformed opinion. Those making statements of support or praise are basing that on their actual experience with this teacher. It doesn't mean that nothing said or done was improper, but it does paint a more complete picture than just the accusations of one or two students and parents. Before passing judgement, let those in charge investigate and make an informed decision.

Not clear why you think it is one or two students. Is that a fact? Positive statements of support are facts but the specific negative experiences described by some above are also factual descriptions of past experiences; not accusations. Yes, let those in charge investigate and make an informed decision.

I graduated from BRHS in 2006, participated in symphonic band, marching band, winterguard, flute ensemble, and the leadership team. I also helped other ensembles to prepare for competitions, because I LOVED the band and what it stood for. Gary and Larry were the most significant teachers in my high school career(even though I currently teach another subject). I was not first chair, I did not practice EVERY night, but I put my heart into what I did. I was given expectations for punctuality, professionalism, dedication, and personal drive to succeed as I entered the band program, and I worked for 4 years to meet or exceed them. Students, if they are willing, will rise to your expectations, and those given to me throughout the program were never unreasonable.
As a teacher, I have encountered an overwhelming amount of students who have never been made accountable for responsibilities. I whole heartedly believe that teaching character education is, and should be, a basic responsibility of any teacher, given how much time teachers spend with students on a weekly basis(especially in this particular band program). I hope to, one-day, have the impact on my students' lives that Gary and Larry had on mine.

I do not know what has happened that resulted in Larry's suspension. What I do know is that when I was in high school, I told the kids that I babysat for that when they entered the high school, they HAD to try marching band for at least one year. I remember telling them that it would change their lives. Now, one student is a music major, and both have stepped forward to support a fantastic teacher that has impacted countless lives for the better. Larry is a passionate teacher, as he should be. That is the kind if drive that can lead students to apply themselves- and be the best version of themselves! He has done Bridgewater Raritan High School a great service, and I sincerely hope that he can soon return to where he belongs, the band room.
I do not live in the area anymore, but had I known about the meeting, I would have been there.

Passion is great. It can inspire students. Moments of passionate rage as described by former students and even current supporters should not be tolerated. It appears that love of the students and passion for music has excused him for a long time. For everyone who only sees the good, there are students who chose to to fail in order to get out. There are students who have never picked up an instrument after high school and they say he is the reason. I hope the district does not use "character building" as justification for tolerating any prohibited behaviors by a teacher.

"Seems like what we used to refer to as passion, commitment, and discipline is now referred to as bullying and inappropriate behavior." - Mitch Schreiber

How true. We are becoming a nation of whiners.

The last year I was involved with the program there were a record number of kids that were going on to be music majors. Many more as music minors. Even more with other majors that continued to participate in some music club at their colleges. This is a classic case of a very vocal few that want to ruin it for everyone else. And again, I am not referring to anything about the current situation. I am referring to those that jump on the "band wagon" and choose to anonymously and publicly kick someone while their hands are tied behind their back. The band directors are very reasonable people and their are better ways of airing grievances.

james snider wrote:
"I have a child in the band. I have a child in sports. So, why can a coach get away with bullying behavior that was on public display and a teacher can't? Shouldn't both be suspended and investigated? What's the difference?"
All very interesting questions to ask oneself. Makes me ask myself, what are the sport's culture standards that make a questionable behavior acceptable, or not? Is it "just part of the game" or is coaching a team a different context with different ideals? Is a teacher judged by a different standard? And who can say what it takes to train a group of 160 students to perform at such precision, to be at a competitive level nationally? Not many, and this level of competition is not for everyone. That it is available in NJ is a gift to my family that I will always be grateful. It's contribution has changed the trajectory of my children's lives in ways that was not otherwise available. My thanks go out to the BR music program, it's directors and the BOE for making it possible. And also to the parents, whose countless hours of contribution is essential to the success of the program.

The majority of these comments make me embarrassed to be from Bridgewater! You won't even leave your real names! Let me remind you that the only people who know the facts are the student, parents, Larry and the admin involved in the investigation. If you had a problem with Larry, you should have approached him. If you did, I fully support that - if nothing came of it, get over it. Why don't we let this situation get resolved and in the meantime, pull together for all the students in the band program. Come on people!

I noticed at one point that my child was uncharacteristically struggling to get off to school in the morning. After much prodding, my child said that Mr Markiewicz was bringing too much pressure to deal with. I spoke with Mr Markiewicz, detailing my concerns. He explained his goals (pushing kids to do their best, giving them goals that made them stretch to achieve). The results? Mr Markiewiecz backed off just enough. My child went back to being happy and energetic in the morning, and there were no negative repercussions.

Wake up people. He is has an abusive personality if he his yelling and throwing things. Healthy people know this is not acceptable especially around kids. Others tolerate it because they are used to it...maybe it happened to them as a kid or maybe their spouse so its not such a big deal. A no tolerance to bulllying rule is just that....NO ONE can do it whether it be students or teachers. A court of law would likely hold the BOE accountable with a no bullying rule on its books. Otherwise they probably wouldn't have gotten involved. Just be glad someone shed some light on this. At least if he comes back hell have to be on his best behavior.....for a little while.

It is obvious that, according to the school districts own guidelines, Larry Markiewicz is a BULLY! If a student exhibited the same behavior...over such a long period of time the administration would be liable for allowing a bully to intimidate their classmates. Why is this guy getting a free ride? Just because they have an OK music program?

PS and kudos to all those parents and students who spoke up about being mistreated. I can imagine it wasnt easy. Everyone has the right to be heard.

Even one instance of harrassment, intimidation or bullying is one too many. It was tolerated for far too long. Good riddance to a nuisance of a teacher.

Wow, what an interesting and intense set of posts. There is passion on both sides, and almost no one on the fence or in the middle. I feel obligated to add my own comments.

I am the parent of two students at BRHS. My son has been in the music program for 4 years, while my daughter as participated in guard for 3 years. Both have had moments where Mr. Markiewicz has verbally expressed his displeasure to them. Some parents would probably have intervened under similar circumstances, but instead I asked my children about the circumstances and got a clear understanding of why he expressed his displeasure. I didn't smile, but I will admit I wanted to, after hearing the honest story from them. I had similar experiences from my own teachers when I was younger, and more than a few bosses. There are some teachers who are more like coaches, some teachers who are professors, and some teachers who are just doing their 40 hours. My experience was always that the coaches had the passion and pushed to excel, the professors expected their students to absorb the material (no matter how boring they spoke), and the rest were just holding on until the retired, doing the basic minimum they needed to do and taking no risks in their job. I always appreciated the coaches, even though they had some fire in their teaching methods, because their passion was usually contagious. They were the ones that inspired students, made them want to be teachers.

Now they are called bullies. How sad.

I have seen far too many teachers in the current school system with no passion in them. Their job is secure, retirement is within sight, and they can get by just by doing what is required of them, nothing more. I feel this is why the US has steadily dropped in the last few decades in teaching statistics to the point that they are near the bottom instead of remaining strong. Teachers are afraid to teach. They feel that they cannot risk, because the parents "bully" them when their students struggle. Teachers jobs are more secure than any other profession. In such an environment, I am not surprised so many have checked out and just get by.

This is such a disservice. Contrary to comments stated above, the real world is not fair, and never will be. It is part of human nature, and artificially trying to protect the students from "bullying" by either teachers or other students has taken the real world out of the schools. Far too many students go to college ill equipped for what awaits them, with no passion or motivation because of our "safe" school systems.

As far as I am aware, no student has ever been physically harmed by Mr. Markiewicz. Although it is plausible that he may be petty and devious in recriminations as has been suggested in the posts, I should point out that this seems to bely untold number of hours of unpaid time that he has given up to this school and to so many students. I don't think that many teachers in the state put in 80 to 90 hour work weeks.

I know that Mr. Markiewicz volunteers his time to provide private music lessons to students who financially cannot afford to pay for them. He gives up the majority of his summer to prepare a program for marching band, and he does not get reimbursed for this. He is available almost any afternoon or evening after school to meet with students who need his help. He also will meet with any parent, and I have witnessed more than a few light into him showing him their extreme displeasure. It takes some courage for teachers to take this type of abuse and still stay calm, smile, and then explain the reason for the child's grade. Note that the parents are not at risk for showing their passion, but every teacher in the school system is.

My advice to parents of all current and future music students in BRHS, assuming that Mr. Markiewicz remains with the school: be aware! Mr. Markiewicz is passionate! He is committed! He demands commitment from his students! He is a fiery coach who will teach your child life lessons in high school that no other teacher in the school or most other schools can! He will teach discipline, pride, honor, respect, and above all, motivation. He does this like many bosses in the real world do, with verbal disapproval amongst peers. He has thrown things in the past, although not recently. If you do not want your child in this program, tell them not to be part of band. But don't be surprised if they the tell you they really want to join anyway.

I will close by stating that I hope that Mr. Markiewicz is not dismissed. I hope that the school system sees reason and realizes they have a truly committed teacher, arguably one of the best in the state. The schools need more like him, with passion and courage, not less, if we are to climb back up from mediocrity in our schools today.

If they do dismiss him, then I wish him well. I hope that he does not lose his passion or his courage. He is the fire in my son's eyes and the passion my daughter feels for guard, and I pray that they do not lose that because their coach was taken from them.

"Oh Captain, My Captain..."

"I have so rarely cried such sorrow for the loss of one such as you. Let me live again, for I am lost without you."

We should not judge Markiewicz by the few unfavorable examples taken out of context. He has more than ten years of teaching experience and his priority has always been the best interest of his students. As an alumni of this amazing band program, my peers and I worked so hard to build it up to where it is today. This wouldn't be possible without the endless guidance of Markiewicz. Please email me to discuss further actions to support Markiewicz. My email is yuentungyan@gmail.com

He will probably get some punishment short of dismissal, then he will sit back and be a lazy tenure jockey for the rest of his career, just like most of the rest of NJ public school teachers. Hope you enjoy it.

Thank you Andy for your post. It captures the spirit of what this program is all about. Many parents just don't see this. Not sure of the exact number but about 160 kids thought the marching band program was worth cutting their summer short by 2 weeks to begin band camp. How many teachers and programs in any school can get this level of motivation out of high school students. Some groups like the guard and drum line are out there on the school lawn practicing on their own way before band camp begins.

Obviously, bringing passion and fire to his profession blew up in his face. The message to all teachers is clear: Work hard for the first three years to get tenure. For the next few decades, sit back, do the bare minimum, avoid confrontation at all costs, smooch the posteriors (figuratively, of course!) of the hyper-sensitive students and their clueless parents, and quietly retire at 50-something years of age, on 2/3 salary for life? Why would you do anything else? If I were this teacher, I would pay back these complainers by phoning in my job for the rest of my career.

Can someone tell me what this man did?

Tugwalla,
Actually, from what I can gather from listening to my children and other students, a certain level of bullying of teachers is actually tolerated by most teachers in NJ. I guess this is due to a current lack or ability to enforce decorum or discipline in the school system and fear of reprisal from parents. Also, although NJ has passed an anti-bullying law (a law that I am not in favor of, by the way), the practical reality is that it is not really that enforceable except in extreme cases. In practice, some students verbally abuse each other, some students verbally abuse teachers, but most teachers do not verbally abuse students. I don't think the term "special ed program for bullies" is actually accurate in this comment (or technically politically correct, if you believe in PC), but in practice very few students are ever expelled or disciplined as bullies, at least in HS in the state of NJ.
As for your previous comment, no, I would not do as you suggest. Children need to learn to stand up for themselves, not be protected from common slights. The real world can be cruel. Artificially protecting them does not help them. I think it actually hurts their development. Who is to say that my son isn't fat and plays the tuba? I think it is far more cruel to overly protect my children, so that they are ill prepared for the real world.
And yes, I spoke with Mr. Markiewicz after the verbal incidents, to get his side of the story, and it matched their explanations.

Taking a step back .... it seems like, generally speaking, that both sides are basically agreeing. The teacher is verbally abusive or says mean things or throws this or that.

Supporters: "But only when we deserve it"
Nonsupporters: "He's a bully"

I like how some try to rationalize the behavior.

"As far as I am aware, no student has ever been physically harmed by Mr. Markiewicz. Although it is plausible that he may be petty and devious in recriminations...." "Who is to say that my son isn't fat and plays the tuba?"

Abuse that is verbal is sometimes worse than physical abuse. Is it a teacher's job to point out your child is fat? To judge their appearance? Dress code violations, fine.

"He's preparing us for the real world"

Where exactly is that written down that a teacher's job is to prepare my child for the real world? Or their perception of what it is? Who says our children are bubble wrapped and insulated from real world experiences there at BRHS and therefore, teachers need to step up and show them?

In my "real world", I've never worked anywhere (except maybe fast food joints in my teens) where any of these behaviors described are accepable. Most companies don't tolerate it.

Wonder how it will all play out? Whatever the final outcome, sure leaves a bad taste in my mouth regarding the band program in general.

Hello All,

I'm now just hearing about this story from a different part of NJ, where I attended school with Mr. Markiewicz as my band director BEFORE he became band director at BRHS. Mr. Markiewicz was fired after one year.... ONE YEAR at his previous school because of "conduct unbecoming a school educator".

Good to see ol' Larry's changed his ways.

You know, it's interesting. I see all of these comments about how he brought excellence, etc, etc but, at what cost? I have been entrusted with the leadership and training of Soldiers for more than 20 years.
Don't recall ever once having humiliated a Soldier in front of subordinates or peers for any reason, (just the opposite in fact, we teach praise in public punish in private.) Didn't allow my own temper to get in the way of doing my job. Calling it the artistic demand for perfection is a cop out. Despite not having this man's method of soul crushing, I have still managed to have a long term impact on the lives of Soldiers that lives on not just in them but, also in the Soldiers they now train and lead. There is no place in my profession, (where we risk a lot more than states or regionals) for this kind of behavior which we label toxic leadership and do our best to root out. There is no place for this in education no matter what prizes are earned.
Oh, and I spent my adolescence studying guitar at Peabody in Baltimore and, despite not being humiliated or having music stands broken in front of me by my considerably gifted instructors, still managed to become a good guitarist as well.

People here seem to focus on Mr. Markiewicz's general behavior. Why don't we focus what he did this time to get him into the current situation? What did he do exactly?

Markiewicz is a state worker who gets his kicks out of abusing children.....fire him and take away his pension...

a kid wanted to go to the naval academy. He told Mr. M that he wanted to drop out of band to focus on volleyball. Mr. M told him that if he did, he would personally call the Naval Academy and tell them about the student's commitment issues. That's why he was suspended.

The BOE has not released any information about the suspension so anything posted here is rumor and "heresay", not fact.

When I was in middle school, Mr. Hughes was the director for our class band, but I still remember the first time Mr. Caramano subbed in. During a certain cadence the band kept slowing down, and every time he would stop us and restart. He wasn't mean, loud, disrespectful, he was just pushing us to play a piece properly and many of us became better musicians that day.

It seems, based on the article and comments I just read, that the Cult of Larry has grown since I left BRHS. Back when I was in the band, I would say a good 80% of us, even in the wind ensemble, were of the opinion that regardless of how the band sounded, his methods were inappropriate, bordering on abusive. That's not counting the friends I had, some of them extremely talented, who were so fed up that they had quit band altogether. However, there were always those who thought that the ends justified the means- those people rarely bore the full brunt of Larry's negativity. If he likes you, he'll compliment your playing. Cindy, you were a DRUM MAJOR, he needed you to perform but he could NOT afford to lose his temper at you.

Larry doesn't care about whether his students love music, all he cares about are his bands, his competitions, his performances. If your musical priorities conflict with his- if you're in a demanding extracurricular band, or just want to have a jam during lunch instead of practicing his stuff, that's a problem to him. He's completely missed the point of a school music program.

I may be a bit late to the party, but wanted to address the "preparing our children for the real world" line. In the "real world" bullying is not tolerated either. I don't know of any company that would tolerate inappropriate behavior in their employees. There are a growing number of states considering making workplace bullying against the law. Don't tell me children need to learn how to take bullying in order to survive in the "real world". That is a cop-out line - there is never any excuse that justifies an adult screaming, demeaning, or throwing objects at a child, especially one who is holds a position of authority over the chlid. I don't bully my children at home - I teach them to treat others, especially their elders and those in authority with respect. I expect other adults with whom they interact to treat them with respect as well. My son was involved in the band program but quit due to the abuse he received at the hands of this "idol". You cannot tell me there is no other music teacher in the state of NJ or anywhere else that also has passion and the ability to keep BRHS as an award winning program without the abuse currently being handed out. Passion is great, rage is not. I don't believe we should sacrifice the goal of building our childrens' esteem and appreciation of music for the sake of winning awards.

To continue what Elizabeth was saying, going into BRHS I loved playing my instrument, i took great pride in being both an athlete and a band member. The teachers at the middle school were a great source of inspiration and education. Then i entered high school, and since i was not part of his precious marching band i was considered in his eyes a second class student. He demonizes those who play for enjoyment and not win him accolades. I let this slide though realizing that i was in the freshman band and there were other students in the class who were extremely musically talented and wanted to perform high levels of musical literature. Entering into my sophomore year and the "less talented" symphonic band, that i would be able to play my instrument with my friends for the enjoyment of music rather than the pursuit of recognition. This was as far from the truth as we are to repaying our national debt. This "great educator/inspirational leader" degraded almost everyone in that class. He caused many of the good friends i had made in band, some who had been in marching band the previous year to quit. One time in class he referred to me as a musical terrorist with as much intent on musical destruction as the people who crashed into the twin towers. Comments like that from him were not unusual and he was good for at least one of them a week. From the people I've talked to who participated in band with me under his "tutelage" everyone has said it's about time and long overdue

As a art teacher, I appreciate the creativity and urge that my students have to try new and interesting things . However, I only allow my students to come in during lunch or after school to work on a project outside of my curriculum once they come to me with that expressed interest and a plan. I may be thrilled that little Ken wants to paint with acrylics instead of watercolors, but I'm not going to give him a fresh canvas and the
use of my brushes until I know he can care for them properly. If you wanted to play drums, that's something you could have expressed to him. I'd have an issue if I found a student having full range of my classroom materials unsupervised. There are things to take into consideration as a professional responsible for supplies- what if you dented the set somehow? For example, I wanted to study with Markiewicz on music I was looking into outside of class- I approached him about this and he made time for me and encouraged it. I also tried another instrument after approaching him about it.

On another note, Caramono addressed an incident during marching band when my brother cursed out an instructor under his breath. Was he right to address it? Yes. Does that mean that he's a horror of a person? No. Did my brother feel that way after being put in his place? Yes. Personal incidents, often times, do not come with full explanations.

I also was not a drum major, or even in wind ensemble, but that was the point. I was interested in continuing music while focusing on another subject. I was also never physically or verbally abused by him. By joining the wind ensemble, it was clear that you were willing to put in the time and commitment to stay there. Otherwise, you could continue playing in symphonic band.

Certain activities call for a level of commitment- it's called accountability, people. The "real world" that many of us are referring to is one where people are responsible for themselves regardless of what "comes up", where people need to be held to a certain level of expectations, where people need to push for something in order to succeed. I don't know if I would have found a teaching job without the persistence and passion that I learned throughout high school. When discussing the real world, I have not found that any of us have said "you need to learn how to handle bullies". I would think of these views as emphasizing that there are often individuals that expect a level of excellence in situations, and these situations should be viewed as a welcomed challenge.

Markiewicz is not abusive. He is passionate and inspiring, and I do not believe that he would return to his post simply to scate-by. He, and Gary, are inspiring educators who want the best for their students, and I aspire to be like them.

I was a student of Mr.Markiewicz when he was a Baritone Instructor in the Cadets2 Drum and Bugle Corps. It's because of him that i've become the musician I am today. Great man, passionate, and inspiring. There's a reason Bridgewater-Raritan is one of the top bands in New Jersey.

It is high time for a decision.Mr.Myer is trying his very best to do it all.Our band program is good because we had great musicians and two great band directors who complement each other to make it one of the best in the state and country.
BRHS band is a very demanding program and only kids who can live up to that should join.We have tons of other clubs at school which will suit them better.
There are many children who are on the program and live for music and gave up their opportunities to do other clubs to fully focus on this.
By MAY we are usually getting ready for the first marching band practice.I don't think it is fair to keep parents and the band kids in the dark about what is going to happen for next year..
We feel you pain and sympathize if you did not have a good experience .
As far as we know we have had great years and was looking forward to more.
Joining marching and quitting leaves empty spots on the field and does not look good .It is very hard to make a change to fill up those spots.
The same applies to other bands.You work as a team player and quitting disrupts the flow.Be a good ROLE MODEL AND TEAM PLAYER.
Both parties in question have flaws.Move on already.

Abuse and "tough love" are a fine line. These are not criminals, for the most part they are dedicated band students. I had several abusive teachers who should not have been teaching, and I applaud efforts to make sure that abusive teachers are reprimanded and rehabilitated or fired, as appropriate.

The same things happens with sports coaches, in or out of school. Some parents might get upset if little Johnny doesn't get a solo, someone else might be happy their kid was called a "lazy bum with no future".

I have been a band director of a very successful high school band program and gave my life to a program and students, only to be thrown away by a school district after a crazed band parent attacked me and I was arrested. I was trashed and accused of things that I never did on line, by supposed teachers, alumni, etc. This man may have his faults, but he, I'm sure, built this program at the expense of his personal and professional life. When you start to attack him, don't hide behind blogs like this that like to ruin peoples lives. I draw a line in the sand, and place a stone behind it - if you are innocent, and can find no fault with your own life, cast the first stone..............................................Nor will I.